SatanBhagat
Utsav Chakraborty
Reservations: Making an entire generation of people who had nothing to do with oppression hate a bunch of people who were never oppressed.
Reservations: Making an entire generation of people who had nothing to do with oppression hate a bunch of people who were never oppressed.
vivekjohn797
vivek john varghese
@SatanBhagat : would disagree with u. our generation has very much 2 do with oppression and those who were oppressed r still oppressed
@SatanBhagat : would disagree with u. our generation has very much 2 do with oppression and those who were oppressed r still oppressed
SatanBhagat
Utsav Chakraborty
@vivekjohn797 My point is: If I never oppressed someone, I shouldn't get the rap. Simple.
@vivekjohn797 My point is: If I never oppressed someone, I shouldn't get the rap. Simple.
Ridchard
Richärd Kämei
@SatanBhagat Likewise from the oppressed,why shud they suffer from the society u represent when they did nothing 2b oppressed @vivekjohn797
@SatanBhagat Likewise from the oppressed,why shud they suffer from the society u represent when they did nothing 2b oppressed @vivekjohn797
vivekjohn797
vivek john varghese
@SatanBhagat : but da point is not tat simple. u and me are part of a system that still oppresses. and we are accountable 4 da system.
@SatanBhagat : but da point is not tat simple. u and me are part of a system that still oppresses. and we are accountable 4 da system.
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@SatanBhagat Dude,we have suffered a lot due to it.And will continue that..Imagine a doc with 300 rank studying with a 20k ranked guy.
@SatanBhagat Dude,we have suffered a lot due to it.And will continue that..Imagine a doc with 300 rank studying with a 20k ranked guy.
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@SatanBhagat probably u belong to the so-called BackWard class or you have studied in a Private institution...
@SatanBhagat probably u belong to the so-called BackWard class or you have studied in a Private institution...
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@SatanBhagat ''Making an entire generation of people who had nothing to do with oppression...'' what does this mean???
@SatanBhagat ''Making an entire generation of people who had nothing to do with oppression...'' what does this mean???
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
@Drkritarth_YNWA Apparently not being from 'backward caste' doesn't mean you're smart. @satanbhagat
@Drkritarth_YNWA Apparently not being from 'backward caste' doesn't mean you're smart. @satanbhagat
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@bhavinjadav and being a 'backward caste' does mean you are smart...n lucky!!! :P @SatanBhagat
@bhavinjadav and being a 'backward caste' does mean you are smart...n lucky!!! :P @SatanBhagat
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
@Drkritarth_YNWA You didn't understand two tweets in simple English; & you are a General Category doctor; go figure! @satanbhagat
@Drkritarth_YNWA You didn't understand two tweets in simple English; & you are a General Category doctor; go figure! @satanbhagat
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@bhavinjadav i didn't like the 2nd part of the tweet-'..have nothing to do with oppression...',n it seems u r one of those lucky chaps!
@bhavinjadav i didn't like the 2nd part of the tweet-'..have nothing to do with oppression...',n it seems u r one of those lucky chaps!
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@bhavinjadav ...enjoy ur easy life dude....n wait,u in a foreign land?!Wow,u r some 'oppressed' class.haha
@bhavinjadav ...enjoy ur easy life dude....n wait,u in a foreign land?!Wow,u r some 'oppressed' class.haha
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
Yes, I'm from 'lucky oppressed caste' and I'm working in Australia- I didn't get this job on reservation. Suck on that @Drkritarth_YNWA
Yes, I'm from 'lucky oppressed caste' and I'm working in Australia- I didn't get this job on reservation. Suck on that @Drkritarth_YNWA
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@bhavinjadav i respect u fr that.Like u,why can't other people get something on their merit!am nt against the people,am against the system.
@bhavinjadav i respect u fr that.Like u,why can't other people get something on their merit!am nt against the people,am against the system.
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
@Drkritarth_YNWA Then you are venting it in wrong direction. It's the system that's abusing caste- those belonging to castes aren't.
@Drkritarth_YNWA Then you are venting it in wrong direction. It's the system that's abusing caste- those belonging to castes aren't.
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@bhavinjadav giv u an eg-2 millionaires of BC ,wid cars in college,even got freeships...while 1 of my 'open' mate,vry poor,payed full fees!
@bhavinjadav giv u an eg-2 millionaires of BC ,wid cars in college,even got freeships...while 1 of my 'open' mate,vry poor,payed full fees!
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
@Drkritarth_YNWA Wouldn't anyone accept a scholarship if offered? They can't choose to Not avail that fellowship & give it to the other guy
@Drkritarth_YNWA Wouldn't anyone accept a scholarship if offered? They can't choose to Not avail that fellowship & give it to the other guy
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
When you judge someone's ability based on their caste you perpetrate the caste bias & justification of reservation @Drkritarth_YNWA
When you judge someone's ability based on their caste you perpetrate the caste bias & justification of reservation @Drkritarth_YNWA
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@bhavinjadav reservation must be given to 1 generation,why the multiple generations reap gain?!And y reservations in PG?!
@bhavinjadav reservation must be given to 1 generation,why the multiple generations reap gain?!And y reservations in PG?!
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
The 'oppression' lasted thousand years & was inconvenient to one side; reservation has only lasted 65 yrs. Hurts already? @Drkritarth_YNWA
The 'oppression' lasted thousand years & was inconvenient to one side; reservation has only lasted 65 yrs. Hurts already? @Drkritarth_YNWA
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@bhavinjadav were there any entrance exams before independence?!guess u r nt with ur mind,bt with ur heart.Chuck it n enjoy ur life in Aus!
@bhavinjadav were there any entrance exams before independence?!guess u r nt with ur mind,bt with ur heart.Chuck it n enjoy ur life in Aus!
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
If there's no reservation in PG, there will be ill wishing 'elitists' who will mark down Selected ones to keep them out @Drkritarth_YNWA
If there's no reservation in PG, there will be ill wishing 'elitists' who will mark down Selected ones to keep them out @Drkritarth_YNWA
EyeKaDoctor
Eye Doctor
But bcos of Reservation there also could be ill wishing 'Bheems' in Teachers posts to keep the 'elites' out @bhavinjadav @Drkritarth_YNWA
But bcos of Reservation there also could be ill wishing 'Bheems' in Teachers posts to keep the 'elites' out @bhavinjadav @Drkritarth_YNWA
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
So the whole fear is that the tables might turn and the 'elites' may have to taste their own medicine? @EyeKaDoctor @drkritarth_ynwa
So the whole fear is that the tables might turn and the 'elites' may have to taste their own medicine? @EyeKaDoctor @drkritarth_ynwa
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
'Bheemrao' was a man of vision and capabilities beyond most of his contemporaries including Gandhi @EyeKaDoctor @Drkritarth_YNWA
'Bheemrao' was a man of vision and capabilities beyond most of his contemporaries including Gandhi @EyeKaDoctor @Drkritarth_YNWA
EyeKaDoctor
Eye Doctor
@bhavinjadav @Drkritarth_YNWA That isn't the debate...issue is the divisiveness of Resevation in Democratic 'Equality for all' constitution
@bhavinjadav @Drkritarth_YNWA That isn't the debate...issue is the divisiveness of Resevation in Democratic 'Equality for all' constitution
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
Equality can't be achieved when elites can't let go of their superiority complex and sense of entitlement @EyeKaDoctor @drkritarth_ynwa
Equality can't be achieved when elites can't let go of their superiority complex and sense of entitlement @EyeKaDoctor @drkritarth_ynwa
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
For that the mention of caste has to be abolished- the caste identities wiped out @EyeKaDoctor @drkritarth_ynwa
For that the mention of caste has to be abolished- the caste identities wiped out @EyeKaDoctor @drkritarth_ynwa
EyeKaDoctor
Eye Doctor
@bhavinjadav @drkritarth_ynwa exactly my point... A Democratic, Equality based country
@bhavinjadav @drkritarth_ynwa exactly my point... A Democratic, Equality based country
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@eyekadoctor @bhavinjadav caste system is a farce.Agree that the BC in villages still dont have equal opportunities,bt wat bout towns?...
@eyekadoctor @bhavinjadav caste system is a farce.Agree that the BC in villages still dont have equal opportunities,bt wat bout towns?...
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@eyekadoctor @bhavinjadav only 1 generation should be entitled,why the BC getting the perks gen after gen?!n PG reservation is a big farce
@eyekadoctor @bhavinjadav only 1 generation should be entitled,why the BC getting the perks gen after gen?!n PG reservation is a big farce
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@eyekadoctor @bhavinjadav n caste system shouldn't be there we agree on.But will it ever go?!not till our mortality....
@eyekadoctor @bhavinjadav n caste system shouldn't be there we agree on.But will it ever go?!not till our mortality....
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
You may not accept this possibility and its hard to prove but caste bias in collees & exams is a reality. @Drkritarth_YNWA
You may not accept this possibility and its hard to prove but caste bias in collees & exams is a reality. @Drkritarth_YNWA
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
If you're oblivious to the oppressive practices you have had a fortunate upbringing- not quite the case in towns & down @Drkritarth_YNWA
If you're oblivious to the oppressive practices you have had a fortunate upbringing- not quite the case in towns & down @Drkritarth_YNWA
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
I had teachers tell me during Board years: "Why are you studying hard? Why do you need rank? You'll get medicine anyway" @Drkritarth_YNWA
I had teachers tell me during Board years: "Why are you studying hard? Why do you need rank? You'll get medicine anyway" @Drkritarth_YNWA
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@bhavinjadav i read ur blog on rural medical-services.Well written.Btw u done MBBS frm which clg?
@bhavinjadav i read ur blog on rural medical-services.Well written.Btw u done MBBS frm which clg?
bhavinjadav
Bhavin Jadav
A 'quota' student may get into the training at lower marks, but they don't Pass the medical exams at lower marks @Drkritarth_YNWA
A 'quota' student may get into the training at lower marks, but they don't Pass the medical exams at lower marks @Drkritarth_YNWA
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@bhavinjadav getting in is the difficult part dude,competitions are nt a walk in the park!my rank was-344,one of my mates' rank-20k+! Wtf!
@bhavinjadav getting in is the difficult part dude,competitions are nt a walk in the park!my rank was-344,one of my mates' rank-20k+! Wtf!
Drkritarth_YNWA
Kritarth Naman Singh
@bhavinjadav @satanbhagat .and another thing,guess u forgot counting.i mistook 1 tweet,nt 2.enjoy ur life while i struggle in India!Cheers!
@bhavinjadav @satanbhagat .and another thing,guess u forgot counting.i mistook 1 tweet,nt 2.enjoy ur life while i struggle in India!Cheers!
r_abhi
Abhishek Raghunath
@SatanBhagat Frog in the well viewpoint. Try getting out of the major cities. You know, just for a change.
@SatanBhagat Frog in the well viewpoint. Try getting out of the major cities. You know, just for a change.
SatanBhagat
Utsav Chakraborty
@r_abhi Yeah, because only Dalits are poor, right? There are absolutely no poor people belonging to other religions and castes. NONE!
@r_abhi Yeah, because only Dalits are poor, right? There are absolutely no poor people belonging to other religions and castes. NONE!
r_abhi
Abhishek Raghunath
@SatanBhagat Reservation is not only for Dalits. It's for all OBCs, SCs/STs. Not all tribals are Dalits btw.
@SatanBhagat Reservation is not only for Dalits. It's for all OBCs, SCs/STs. Not all tribals are Dalits btw.
SatanBhagat
Utsav Chakraborty
@r_abhi And you see no wrong in someone getting reservations based entirely on birth.
@r_abhi And you see no wrong in someone getting reservations based entirely on birth.
r_abhi
Abhishek Raghunath
@SatanBhagat Now you are changing the subject because your ignorance showed. Understand what the issue is, then get into a debate.
@SatanBhagat Now you are changing the subject because your ignorance showed. Understand what the issue is, then get into a debate.
SatanBhagat
Utsav Chakraborty
@r_abhi I'm not changing the subject. I'm sticking to it. Let's not even pretend that reservations are anything but a political poll point.
@r_abhi I'm not changing the subject. I'm sticking to it. Let's not even pretend that reservations are anything but a political poll point.
boyonthefence
Ḓåm̈ų
@ArunMoncy I have not been personally affected but i see more deserving people being not selected just because of reservation
@ArunMoncy I have not been personally affected but i see more deserving people being not selected just because of reservation
ArunMoncy
Arun moncy
@boyonthefence That's your evaluation, isn't it? May be they were deprived many freedom's we were able to enjoy and took them for granted.
@boyonthefence That's your evaluation, isn't it? May be they were deprived many freedom's we were able to enjoy and took them for granted.
ArunMoncy
Arun moncy
@boyonthefence I know reservation has it's flaws. But it'll exist unless u cn propose a better system 4 de up-liftment of de deserving class
@boyonthefence I know reservation has it's flaws. But it'll exist unless u cn propose a better system 4 de up-liftment of de deserving class
boyonthefence
Ḓåm̈ų
@ArunMoncy I can understand money based reservation, but i don't think caste based reservation ever reaches those for whom it is intended
@ArunMoncy I can understand money based reservation, but i don't think caste based reservation ever reaches those for whom it is intended
ArunMoncy
Arun moncy
@boyonthefence There is no point in reservation based on income. That'll be just like distributing money to the poor in the streets
@boyonthefence There is no point in reservation based on income. That'll be just like distributing money to the poor in the streets
ArunMoncy
Arun moncy
@boyonthefence We have to have them believe dat everything is achievable nd it can happen only when people they interact with or people[1/2]
@boyonthefence We have to have them believe dat everything is achievable nd it can happen only when people they interact with or people[1/2]
ArunMoncy
Arun moncy
@boyonthefence [2/2] who they identify as their own, achieve heights. Hence the caste/community based reservations.
@boyonthefence [2/2] who they identify as their own, achieve heights. Hence the caste/community based reservations.
boyonthefence
Ḓåm̈ų
@ArunMoncy that is what you believe fair enough, i just find people working less hard because they know that everything comes easily to them
@ArunMoncy that is what you believe fair enough, i just find people working less hard because they know that everything comes easily to them
ArunMoncy
Arun moncy
@boyonthefence I see a lot of people not working because their families have lot of money, lot of contacts and ancestral properties.
@boyonthefence I see a lot of people not working because their families have lot of money, lot of contacts and ancestral properties.
boyonthefence
Ḓåm̈ų
@ArunMoncy but finally the quality and aptitude of a person is most important, so many students who got through resv find it hard to cope up
@ArunMoncy but finally the quality and aptitude of a person is most important, so many students who got through resv find it hard to cope up
ArunMoncy
Arun moncy
@boyonthefence But I doubt de motives of people against reservation. The apathetic approach to their situation has to be countered.
@boyonthefence But I doubt de motives of people against reservation. The apathetic approach to their situation has to be countered.
ArunMoncy
Arun moncy
@boyonthefence so a better system is in need. doesn't mean reservation is wrong.
@boyonthefence so a better system is in need. doesn't mean reservation is wrong.
ArunMoncy
Arun moncy
@boyonthefence but as you say, people who believe to a particular community but has detached themselves from it also recieve the favours
@boyonthefence but as you say, people who believe to a particular community but has detached themselves from it also recieve the favours
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